went to purchase a pup and found this not to be a working gundog kennel, although it is advertized as such. purchases for pups are rerouted through another kennel upon request for a pup, so you really have no idea what you are getting. this woman is woman is obviously not a breeder and to find out she is advertizing years in advance for her dogs that not of breeding age and may not even produce viable gundog offspring as she does not own a gun dog at this time, nor has ever hunted. this I found out after inquiring about a purchase.