In Aug., 2008, payments were made through these sites, and after a 1 day trial memberships, my credit card was automatically charged full membership fees, even though there was no access to the sites that they were billing me for. When I tried to contact these companies, using the phone number provided, which happens to be the same for both billing companies, I was given other phone numbers to other companies that had no idea or any records of the accounts. As of today, I am still trying to request refunds from both companies, and I have not had any luck.