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May 24, 2008
Misrepresentation, manipulation and deceitful practice
This gloried middle man company just inflates the price to create it's own profit under the guise of quality, convenience and speed. Buyer beware!!! This is the most expensive services you can get. I fell for the advertising and had them come out to a house I was remodeling. I should have known right away that someone is paying for all that advertising. I got a bid to install laminate flooring for a 500 sq. ft area. The bid was $18, 000. That's right $$$18, 000 but with the 50% off it was the bargain price of $$$$9, 000. Now you have understand that I had already done all the prep work and the house was empty.

I was baffled at the price being quoted and of course asked for a breakdown but as others have found out they don't do that. If they did it would become apparently clear that they are making exorbitant profits. There is no transparency here they have to hide their costs otherwise none would buy from them unless they have money to burn. I laughed at the sales person and sent her packing. I decided to do the floor myself and bought a laminate on sale at the box store for 500.00 bucks. I installed it slowly and carefully over the next 5 days; not a difficult job. So 9, 000.00 minus 500.00 equals 8, 500.00. I figure that I paid myself $1, 700.00 for 8 hours work each day. The most I have ever made in a day. Now I realize that there flooring is probably more expensive then the flooring I got but I figure I could have but the most expensive floor out there and still come out way ahead. That was 4 years ago and the floor still looks great.

My concern is for the little old lady or those not savvy or cautious who fall for a firm handshake and all the hype; 50% off, next day installation, and no payments for a year. Please get 3 bids at least, deal with local hometown businesses or make it an adventure and do it yourself and keep your hard earned money.

This business is an unequivocal rip-off and they prey on your trust and your ignorance. It's no deal. Good luck to all of you out there.
May 23, 2008
They do not pay their sales people
I worked for Empire Today for several years. In the last couple years it has been hard to get paid for the jobs you sell.

When a sales person comes out to your home, they are given a price range that they are allowed to charge. The sales person may be able to charge $24-$50 a yard. If you get a salesperson that can really sell you may pay more than 2x more then the people next door. Now the salespeople have to sell area rugs. It they don't sell a certain amount a week they are not given work the following week. The salesperson is taught how to charge for the area rug and make the customer think they are getting it for free. You can get the same area rug at Lams plus for a lot less.

When they do their 50% sale it is only on 2 carpets; the cheapest carpet. They pay only about $4 a yard so when they have the sale you are only saving $2 a yard. For example you might pay $26 a yard vs. $24 a yard. The sales person is only allow charging you $24-$50 a yard. There is really no sale.

The reason why Empire always miss their appointments is that they only give appointments to the salespeople that are selling over 50%. So a salesperson may have my 6-8 appointments a day where they can not get to everyone and another salesperson is sitting at home with nothing to do. One of the general managers said at a sales meeting he would rather us miss the appointment (he used the word "burn) then give it to someone who is not selling at 50%. That is why they miss several appointments.

When a salesperson finally leave Empire makes up every excuse not to pay them. I had some sales that they gave to someone else. Salespeople have left the company being owe $1000-$5000 and they never pay them. They can't file a small claims because they don't register in the state and small claims will not let you file a case that is out of state unless it is an auto accident or tenant/landlord problem. You can't go to the labour board because you are an independent contractor. Since the sales people are i.c. Empire does not have to pay unemployment taxes or benefits. If salespeople are fired they can to collect unemployment. If Empire goes through 1000 sales people a year (which is a very low count) and don't pay $2000 to each of them they are saving $2, 000, 000 a year.

Please don't do business with them.
May 21, 2008
Rip off
So yea we saw the commercial, been wanting new flooring for a while. Finally we decided to go ahead and do it. From the start it was a mes... We made the appointment and the sales man was an hour late. I figured rush hour, busy area, we will live. He got here and was friendly, at first, but pushed to get down to business. This is my first time. So flooring, and pricing, is all new to me. Anyways, he went on about how good the product is, only top of the line stuff. To be honest I can care less that the laminate only has a 6% percent leak through. Not like I am dumping buckets of water on my floor anytime soon.

Finally he measures and comes up with a number. I don't know what he measured but I know for a fact we had less that 500 sq ft we wanted done. Actually when I tried measuring it myself, it's about 400 sq ft, give or take on weird angles and such. So finally he comes up with $8, 700.00!!! Well I didn't, at first, know that was a lot for such small square feet and laminate, not real wood, floors. 50% off??? Well, the product is supposedly 50% off. They don't do 50% off of labor because it's a 4 man job and they are not going to only pay for 2 men. He did explain that all 4 workers would have 10 years of experience.

Still, as expensive as it was, everything seemed to be going ok. Then I asked about 3 steps by my front door. Just 3 steps. Well you can't put laminate on steps, that would have to be hard wood. Okay, I thought, how about it. He told me it would cost an extra $1, 100 to do three damn steps! $1, 100 freakin bucks! All because it has to be hard wood. Well, we were financed out, and didn't have the extra cash. So after paying $8, 700, they couldn't give us 3 damn steps?? That started it all...

The next day the workers came. Well the sales man was lying. Wouldn't give 50% off of the work because it's a 4 man job. Well then why were only 3 men working on it? All ten years experience, at least... that was a lie, one of the was 17, and rarely did anything except cary supplies, sweep, and whatever else they asked him to do. So really I paid for a 4 mon installation, and they doubled up on the money. That upset me as well.

SO I start looking around, talking to people, etc. I figured I paid $17.40 a square foot!!! Installation and everything. That is way too expensive. I even asked the workers and had I bought the flooring myself and contracted them, I could have had it installed for just over $2, 000!!. AND the sales guy who explained that half of the price is automatically for the installation... OKAY I understand that. But that means the actual product WHICH I SUPPOSEDLY GOT 50% OFF was $8.70 a square foot!!! That is still about 4 times the amount for that exact product than I could get at a do it yourself store.

It gets worse. I wrote about it on the website. They said a 'customer service rep' would contact me in 1 to 3 days. Nothing happened. I did it again, nothing happened. I called Empire again, to speak directly myself, they said they had to contact a local office to speak with me so they can fix any problems. FINALLY the local guy called me. BUT he called during the hours I was working, even though I put on the website when is best to call. Then they never called back since. I have tried calling and get the same thing.

So I did more research and found out I could have bought the products myself, hired someone to do it, and pay less than half, or about half, of what I paid for this crappy experience. After researching this more, I realized that as soon as my year of no financing hits, they will rape you. If you made the mistake of going with them, pay it off before the year is up.

DON'T USE EMPIRE TODAY... complete rip off, and no customer service!!!
May 21, 2008
Bad customer service
I called and spoke to their representative named William. I scheduled the appt and then proceeded to ask questions about the company. He became very rude and sarcastic. Stated he did not understand why I was asking questions about them. Then I asked if the representative that would come out to my home would have samples of carpet and give me final quote and he responded very sarcastic "That's why you have an appt". I asked him why he was so annoyed with my questions and he said he did not understand why I was asking questions and I should ask the representative at the appt. I told him that I just needed a little more info and I would like to have an idea of what to expect so I told him to cancel my appt. I am GLAD I did not do business with this company after reading all the complaints on so many websites!
May 8, 2008
I would never recommend them to anyone
I hired Empire Carpet, a national company, to install carpet at our home. The commercial on TV shows uniformed men installing the carpet, and the salesmen who sold the carpet was very nice. The 2 men who came out were a very different story. The dressed as the hadn't showered in days, they reeked of pot, they were late, they peed in my driveway and they took a 'smoke' break too often.

I called my sales guy to complain and he did absolutely nothing. He later said he did not want to reprimand the guys because he did not want them to lash out at us later. He said he would just give them less work. How unprofessional, I would never recommend them to anyone. I was pissed!
May 4, 2008
Don't use them
Empire Today installed carpet in my living room about four months ago. Besides the inordinate amount of fuzz constantly being put out by the carpet, spreading out all over my house, and clogging my vacuum cleaner, I've noticed that certain higher traffic areas of the living room are beginning to "pill" or mat. That's not something I expect of practically brand-new carpet that I paid a not-so-cheap price for. I began to suspect that I'd been ripped off, so I googled the phrase "Empire Today Carpeting consumer complaints" and was not too particularly surprised by the many other similar complaints about their substandard carpeting.

I'm not really sure what I'll do next...I don't really want them replacing this crummy piece of carpet with another equally crummy one; and somehow, I doubt that I'll be able to get any kind of a refund or even any sympathy, based on the horrible customer service stories I've just read...best thing I can do is to warn others who are thinking of using Empire - PLEASE DON'T !
April 7, 2008
Sub standard flooring!
To have Empire return the full amount of money paid for flooring. Remove cherry flooring and replace with carpeting of same quality they removed prior to installing floors. Feb 2007 had Empire install cherry floors in my townhouse. In all rooms plus stairs at a cost of $14, 000. This was done to improve my home and make it sale ready. In early November I removed a rug in dining room. The color under the rug is greatly different from the area around it. I called Empire and was told it would take a week, then a month, then six months and now they state perhaps never to have an evenly colored floor. The entire house is the same, I had rugs and furniture leave uneven colors in every room. This is a liability to my home. I was unable to sell it and had to rent it due to the decrease in value.

Empire Today LLC strives for complete customer satisfaction. Empire has explained to the customer that the reddish- brown color darkens to a deep red with exposure to light. The customer was also told that the distinctive grain patterns enhance Brazilian Cherry's natural beauty, and that the flooring has the most dramatic and desirable reaction to light exposure. All of this information was listed on the sample that was shown the customer at the time of the sales appointment. The area that has darkened is the area that was not covered with customer’s area rug.

The above is Empires response. I have a copy of the disclosures given by Empire at time of sale and will attach that. I did sign that and no mention of different colors is made in that document. I did not read the above text on the sample of Brazilian Cherry, but even if I did it would not tell me not to place furniture or rugs on the floor. No mention is made of different colors. Had I known that if I placed furniture and rugs on the floors would result in different floor colors I would never have had the work done. I will enclose black and white photographs of the damage done to my home. These were taken months after removal of dining rug and no improvement can be seen. These photographs are not as good as the color ones, I can email color prints to you.

Please act of this as I do not want any other Colorado resident to suffer such a liability by installing Empire Flooring.
April 7, 2008
Offensive and unprofessional salespeople!
We need new flooring, so my wife got me to contact Empire Today after seeing one of their advertisements on TV. We set up the appointment online and the sales rep came by in a very timely fashion. Pretty cool, I thought... set up an appointment on the web and presto, the sales rep is there on time the next day. I figured we were going to be in for a hard sell since the web site wanted us to ensure that all decision makers would be present, but figured I could handle it since I am a professional salesperson myself. Ted, the sales guy, shows up and agrees to take his shoes off (my wife is from an Asian where culturally it is taboo to keep your shoes on in the house). Very nice, I thought. Some people don’t like to take their shoes off.

Upon entering, Ted immediately says he can have the flooring installed on Monday despite not even having shown us a sample yet. He then starts speaking pidgin English to my wife (who has a Masters degree and, although accented, speaks English very well). Ted proceeds to lay down a sample board (not bothering to explain anything about the quality or style... simply, here are three colors – choose one) and starts writing up a quote. I ask him about other styles and he stops, looks at me, and asks “look, am I making a sale here today or not?” I responded that we are in the process of looking and getting quotes (he wanted to charge us $9, 000), so probably not, but given the state of our floor we will likely be buying in the near future. He proceeds to stand up and tell me that he’s got to go to the car to get other samples, but he’s not coming back in and certainly won’t take his shoes off again if we’re not buying today. He then puts his shoes on, walks all over the living room floor to get something he forgot, and leaves.

Are you kidding me? The guy wants to make an $9, 000 sale just by showing up? The sad thing is, if he had simply gone through a professional sales process there is a high likelihood we would have bought something. As I said, we are buying (all you need to do is look at our floor and you’ll know what I mean). I sell for a living and while what I sell typically requires us to be more strategic with clients, we still do need to roll up our sleeves and get transactional at times. That said, I was stunned, truly stunned, when he refused to provide basic sales services when he learned he wasn’t making the sale today.

Beware when engaging this company... your experience may differ, but this is not a quality company and you would be better served buying from a local dealer or one of the big chains.
April 3, 2008
Late for Estimate Appointment
We had Empire Today install carpeting and tile in our living room and dining room in January 2008. The estimating and installation processes went well, so we decided to have them come back to do our three bedrooms. We called and were given an appointment for between 5 and 7 PM that same evening. At about 6:30 PM we received a call saying our saleman was running late and would be there in 15 to 20 minutes. By 7:30 he had still not arrived, and we had not received any further calls. We called to cancel the estimate and were put through to the salesman who said he was just fininshing with his last appointment. Based on where he said he was and knowing what traffic is like in our area we knew it would have probably taken him another hour to get to our house. We told him we would reschedule, but we will now have someone else do the job. Between getting the house ready and waiting for the saleman to show up we wasted an entire afternoon and evening. As potential repeat customers we had expected better service. Empire Today needs to be more realistic in scheduling its sales appointments.
April 2, 2008
carpeting order
I called Empire Today (800-588-2300) for carpet installation. A salesman came to my house for the ordering. First of all, the measurements that he quoted were almost twice of my husband's (160 vs 89).But he told me that b/c of the way the carpet is cut, you have to do it a certain way. He added that since i have stairs, that's another thing that could cause a difference in the measurements. He insisted that my measurements were false. Now i stressed the importance of having a carpet as thick as the current one in the bedrooms ;he reassured me that it will be the same - "You have nothing to worry about. we sell the best carpet and offer 100% satisfaction. I was convinced. He presented a sample attached to a board with no info provided. I asked for a sample (meaning one that is not attached on a board) so i could feel it and assess the thickness since there is no info provided regarding the carpet, he told me he does not carry sample with him but only this exhibit. I pointed that there was no written info about the carpet like any other store would regarding the thickness, density, type of material or fiber, brand etc (usually displayed for the customer's awareness)- no evidence here, or visual info to convince me of what i'm buying, but he told me "that's why you have me". and reassured me about the quality and thickness of the carpet, and scheduled for next day installation. The next day was such a disappointment. I truly wished i had kept my old carpet which is by far a better carpet than the "garbage they have installed - a very thin one, low pile, low ground cheap carpet - (that was very deceptive!) around the steps you can see the bare carpet and upon touch the fiber strands come out easily. Plus the installation is not great and they left the same tax strips that i had under my previous carpet for more than twenty years. The same sample taken to home depot manufactured by the same company (Mohawk) is $13 per square yard with the difference that the carpet sold at home depot does not shred like this one. a better one for a better price with $ 200 installation for whatever the amount of bedrooms. They claim to have better price b/c they eliminate the middle man and they provide excellent quality of carpet, even Home Depot does a better job at all levels. I give Empire a zero. They are dishonest; they purposely do not provide any visible info about the carpet . Attempts to communicate with managers are unsuccesful. the manager is never available. Bill Mara scheduled an appt for someone to revisit ; i waited an entire day, but no show and no phone call to cancel the appointment. when you call, you get voice mail. you leave tons of messages, no return call, no follow-up. They do not care, they already got you. Zero professionalism, poor service, dishonesty is their trademark. I kept calling with no result. I had to go to my lawyer yesterday to help me settle this. I do not want to deal with them anymore. I wonder how many elderlies or naive people like me have been victims of their tricks. I did not request such a cheap carpet and i did not expect such a poor service. For this amount, i would have had a much better carpet from any other store. Have i known that this was such a cheap carpet, i would not have made the deal.. The installation problem regarding the strips was reported to manager Peter Brocha and numerous messages left on Bill Mara's voice mail regarding the quality of the carpet. No follow-up with the client. I do not want to deal with them anymore. I am going to send my complaints to their finance or billing department. an investigation needs to be done to close down this store. Otherwise, hundreds more will be cheated. I kept a sample of my carpet - even the installer admitted the difference between my OLD carpet, and their cheap one. This is definitelynot a smart way to do business. You treat your client well to keep them coming and refer others to you.

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