Oh my god I went to this "FREE" seminar (not worth the lunch) It first started off with them pretending like they had a fully booked room only 5 people showed up and the "others" had cancelled that morning. Then some guy named George introduced himself as the "owner" and bragged about jumping out of planes and crap like that, he went off on these wild tangents that didnt make and sense and when people asked questions he would stutter and not know any of the answers !!! Of course it ran over time then people started getting taken out 1 by 1. I was in an office with some guy named Mark (another prize ) he tried to tell me he was on the floor trading for 20 years but he is another person who could not verify his credentials when I asked him. He said I needed this class to make money and that by the end of some 7 day class I would make all my money back... DONT WASTE YOUR TIME RIP OFF CITY !!!