Just thought I'd toss in. Tried earlier today to contact Origin3 at their 800 number and regular number. Operator's message stated either disconnected or no longer in service for both numbers. Luckily, they finished and sent me my website awhile back but I've never received anything pertaining to my logo I hired them to design, which I already paid them $300.00 for. Lyndsey, that sweet sounding little con also took $30.00 out of my debit card a few weeks ago to come up with some sales copy for my business cards, so I guess I've lost that too. I'll just have to look for someone else to host my brochure website and hopefully I'll be able to self-edit it as Origin3 stated I would. For my future commerce site, I plan on using a template site and create it myself, staying far away from these Godless web designer con artists. If anyone knows about a class action suit in the works to help people get all or some of their money back from Origin3, please contact me.