I too worked for the same company as cleaver. Patriots. A lot of what he says is true however I got the scams as soon as I left in December. I joined right around April. If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them. I will forever mostly regret hurting any friends that I made if you didn't get your magazines. You were all more than customers to me. I didn't realize til it was too late. Any questions will be answered.