Champion Windows
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Category: Services
Contact Information United States
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Champion Windows Reviews
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KathleenMarie
October 26, 2009
Sloppy job & incorrectly installed windows
I had most of my windows replaced recently in my home by Champion Windows. Many of the windows were installed incorrectly and the caulking job was horrific. I have never seen such a horrible caulking job. There is caulking all over the window sills and the drywall. And, their sales price of 30% to 50% off is not a sales price, as the windows are horribly marked up. I would advise that anyone going with Champion only pay with a credit card so that you have some leverage if work is done incorrectly. As I paid with a credit card, I disputed charges with my card holder and they are putting a hold on payment to Champion.
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maskpeanut
October 12, 2009
Truth about Champion and the BBB
I made the mistake of working for this ripoff company for a short period of time. I left Champion and hit the afterburners in moving onto something else other then trying to sucker each customer into doing something that is not in there best interest.
If your thinking about going to work for Champion or purchasing any of its products you should check yourself and don't waist your time and just look further at other offering instead of making that big mistake that you will most certainly regret. A lesion learned on my part but I was one of the lucky ones by getting out on my own terms. I found out that the local organization was just a revolving door.
I seen numerous customers that entered into sales contracts with the Champion organization and for one reason or another they wanted out after signing contract with Champion. Champion will just hold its customers hands to any and all contracts even though there was not any product ordered for that customer order or that job. Within my State they have laws that protects a customer for up to 72 hours after a purchase that was made within the home but not within purchases made within the Champion showroom. The sale people was required to write on the contracts that its was agrees and understood that a showroom purchase was not solicited within the customers home and the sales was not covered by the 72 hour writer recession. If the customer signed that contract they was locked into it terms as soon as the showroom doors hit them in the their backside. The customers could not back out of a showroom purchase and if any customers pushed any issues I seen Champion outright threaten its customer to how Champion would stop trying to work with them at all. If the customer protested or prosed any other actions on Champion they would lose there down payments and they would have to hire an attorney and go though a long and drawed out process to settle with Champion. Almost always a customer would be required to agree to giving Champion a satisfactory rating with the BBB if they did come to any agreement to settle any issues with them.
If a purchases were made on a weekend I knew that Champion could of canceled the contract as the manufacturer didn't even have the order yet as only the sale people worked the weekend. Even if an ordered was entered into the Champion computers they could of just called and backed up on any orders within a certain time line. Champion will never back up on any sale as its all for the sake of a sale or profits even if they have to lie, cheat, and steal from its customers. It also doesn't mind pitting its sales people and its customers between each other.
Within the Champion sales training manuals it state that the more money that a salesman can get as a down payment the less likely for a customer would want to back out of its contracts. It teaches its salesman to get a higher down payment of 50% or more to protect Champion so they could used its as leverage on the customers who might choose to back out of contracts. Of course if the customer made a purchase within there home and was protected by the 72 hours right of recession and Champion had no alternative but to just give the money back but Champion would take its sweet time in returning that customers money. This happen more often then what you would think mainly due to the customer finding out that they really had over paid way to much for the Champion products and its services.
Champion business selling model is based on trying to get its customers really emotionally involved within the sales presentation and then signing the Champion sales contracts for higher profit morgins on the spot. The Champion salesman's commissions pay program is geared so that the salesmen would want to get a 50% down payments because if they don't it does effect how and when the salesman is paid for his sale or project. With the larger down payments the sales person receives most of his commissions up front when with the lower down payments a salesman has to wait for his commissions until the project is finished.
After seeing numerous customers confutation's within the Champion showroom I often wondered why there wasn't multiple issues that came up with the local BBB. How does Champion get away with treating its customers in that manner and just challenging them. Champion has always brags about its BBB status but after working at Champion I know why now. Even most local awards are given to this organization solely due to its advertisement dollars and that is what it all comes down to. It is the ole mighty dollar at work. It is just a self serving wheel going full circle for all involved. You would be surprised on what go on behind the Champion veil.
The BBB accredited program really should to be investigated as its just a shell game by the BBB and they are just whoring themself out to the organizations that pay them under the accreditation program. I have seen some other competitors that had a F rating with the BBB and all the sudden they ended up getting a A+ rating under the BBB accreditation program? The BBB would like the consumer's to think that the accredited program is a plus when they are really on the take.
Its just A BIG RIPOFF for all consumers that get involved so its just best to move on to another company that doesn't have to play these games with its customer or its employees. One of these days Champion corporate might weak up and see that its time to make changes to its business model but it might be way to late as people do not like being ripoff by Champion and the BBB. Thank you,
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consumer7
September 18, 2009
Do Not Trust
Do not trust. Bad business partners.
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consumer7
September 18, 2009
poor service
Very unprofessional. Terrible service. I will never do business with them again.
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maskpeanut
September 4, 2009
Sales Tactics
This place is a joke... Champion offers a average window products but at a way over inflated book price then starts applying discounts of up to 50% off and then its all sales pressure to buy it now. But even at those so called discounted prices its a way to much price to pay. A jacked-up price with deep discounts is still a jacked- up price to pay. Seek out other estimates with a company that doesn't have to play those sales games with it customers in an attempt to pads its profits.
BUYERS BEWERE never sign anything within the Champion showroom that has the following contract addedums writen on it. 'Purchased in the Champion showroom using the customer supplied measurements and installation information. Customer agrees to pay any additional cost discovered during the factory measurement'... Showroom purchases are not solicited at your residents and are not subject to cancellation... That means the customer is on the hook for any addtional products or labor to complete the project. Champion will hold any down payments as hostage to hold any customer to its contracts.
Champion warranty is not worth the paper that it is writen on and is a load of crap.
Don't be fooled by those worn out sales tactics they use. Its not worth the hassel so you would be better off just seek out another contactor that can offer as good as quility of products or even better at a lower price then Champion. I would recommend the any of the following windows over the Champion products.
Consumer Reports ranked replacement windows in its October 2007 issue. The consumer group based its ratings on wind and rain resistance, durability and convenience. There are some newer products availible today.
Following is a listing of how the windows rated stacked up.
Ranking Window Manufacturer Material
1 Clad Ultimate Marvin Windows and Doors Wood
2 Wood Ultrex Integrity Marvin Windows and Doors Wood
3 400 Series Tilt Wash Andersen Windows Wood
4 ProLine Pella Corp. Wood
5 200 Series Tilt Wash Andersen Windows Wood
6 Designer Series Precision Fit Pella Corp. Wood
7 500 Series Peachtree Windows and Doors Wood
8 Select Clad Crestline Windows & Patio Doors Wood
9 Weather Shield Custom Shield Weather Shield Windows & Doors Wood
10 Premium Wood Tradition Plus Jeld-Wen Windows and Doors Wood
11 5600 Series Reliabilt/Survivor Windows Vinyl
12 UltraMaxx Replacement Alside Vinyl
13 9500 Series American Craftsman Vinyl
14 Bryan Mawr II CertainTeed Corp. Vinyl
15 CrestFit Vinyl Crestline Vinyl
16 ThermaStar 25 Series Pella Corp. Vinyl
17 Impervia Pella Corp. Fiberglass
In addition to the above rankings, Andersen's #400 Series Tilt Wash ranked as best overall, as Consumer Reports notes it is the only clad-wood window in the group available in custom sizes. Pella's ProLine and its Impervia, along with Andersen's 200 Series Tilt-Wash, also ranked best overall. Reliabilt's 5600 and American Craftsman's 9500 Series were both named "Best Buys."
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maskzman
August 26, 2009
Ten step selling tactics exposed
Champions 10 step sales tactics are exposed.
1 - The meet in greet or the appoach and apperance.
2- The warm up
3- Your 4 jobs today
4- 5 Inspection & Measure
6 - The Champion differance
7 -Presentation or product demo
8 - Investment
9- The Close
10- Warm down
Why does Champion fill a need to teach its sale team member to enploy these ole worn out 10 step low class used car lot sale tactics? Is it to try to suck as much as they can out of its so called valued customer? Consumers do have other alturnitives other then being disrespected by Champion... Good luck with that Champion
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Way Out in idaho
July 30, 2009
none
This is not a complaint! Before I had Champion install a window, a patio door, and an entry door for me, I looked at this site and read the complaints; needless to say, what I saw here made me nervous, but the quality of service I received in the showroom as well as what appeared to me to be a quality product encouraged me to go with Champion anyway.
I am not sorry. Yes, Champion products are expensive, but I believe I received what I paid for. The installers did excellent prep work, did no damage to my siding and did not leave a mess of any sort behind. The doors and window are a perfect fit, are very sturdy and come with a lifetime quarantee that seems to cover every circumstance.
I can only conclude that there are several different companies out there called "Champion" or that the individual Champion dealerships vary widely in the quality of their products and the expertise of their employees.
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pda6465
July 25, 2009
Fake warranyt
Purchased Champion windows for the whole house in 1999. Had similar bad experience with the installation. Damaged the siding and interior wood work. Would not fix the problem for months. Withheld half of the payment until work was done. Work never done correctly.
Now one of the windows needs a simple less than $10 part-but they will not sell me the part. They insist they have to send a rep out. That of course will mean a service charge and a labor charge-$100 for a $10 part. Interesting warranty-of no use-can get it done cheaper and better without the warranty. Buyer Beware.
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jane Thomson
April 17, 2009
sales deceit
1. on April 8, 2009 a company representative sold me windows for 3, 333 and advised me there would be no problem financing the other half of the money i put down.
2. On July 10, 2009 a company representative told me the financing had been turned down but that they were going to look into other options.
3 On april 13, 2009 the company representative called and advised me that they had in fact found financing and that my payment would be 104.00 monthly for two years and that a representative would call and make an appointment with me to sign the necessary paperwork.
4. On April 14, 2009 a company representative left a message on my phone stating there was soem problem with the paper work because of some law change in RI but that I was not to worry it was not my problem but the company's because they had no appropriate papework anywhere in the country. was also informed that paperwork was going to be overnight mailed and the problem would be resolved by next week/
5. on April 17, 2009 the saleman and hus supervisor called me at my place of work to advise that indeed there was aproblem because the bank that was giving the loan did not give these loans. My concernis if the bank had akready approved the loan and even given a rate of payment did they not know what they were giving the loan for when they a[[rpved it
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November 5, 2008
WINDOW REPLACEMENT
I HAD WINDOW INSTALLED AND FRONT DOOR.ONE WINDOW KEEPS ON BREAKING AND THE FRONT DOOR HANDLE IS BROKE SO I CAN'T EVEN GET IN MY OWN HOUSE.I'VE CALLED 9 TIMES AND ALWAYS GET THE SAME ANSWER WELL CALL YOU!!! SO MUCH FOR LIFETIME GUARANTEE, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THESE PEOPLE TO ANYBODY .
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