I really do not know about the guys you are talking about. But what you did to david S. last year and accuse him to get paid everyone knows. This is not your first time and will not be the last. People should know that Jeff Collinson is scammers and i do really sorry for the gentleman above to get in this situation with him. My Advise to you is to sign him to the police so others will not have the fraudster in the future He tried with 3 banket in Europe in 2009 and 2011 to get them pay him and one of the guys is very close friend to me, People be careful read full review »