For month now dodge have been offering his dodge caravan base model for 14, 075 with all the rebates that the government have given plus incentive from dodge. The problems is that model it is nowhere to be found the same is happening with the jeep patriot none of the dealers have this model if dodge and jeep do not have these models at all why offer them on a big discount if they dealers will never carry them. It is these a trick to bring us to the dealers so we can purchase a high price cars or dodge do not want to produce them. read full review »