In August, we shipped a fine musical instrument (viola) from our business to a couple in Union, Kentucky, via UPS. We insured the instrument for $700. and the shipping charges to 2nd day air the package were $112.03. The viola arrived 6 days later & was damaged to the extent of $647.93. I have called and written UPS too many times to even count. I have pictures of the viola, copies of the letters, notes from the phone calls, etc. as proof. UPS has been giving me the runaround for about 3 months now. Each representative that I have talked to assured me that all shipping charges would be dropped since they did not get the package to my customer in 2 days as promised. I can't seem to get to speak to the same representative twice. The insurance only sent me a check for $158.91. I sent them a bill for the damaged amount ($647.93) as well as shipping to the customer, back to myself & to the customer again after I repair the instrument. UPS has no stable address to contact the same person again, nor no stable phone number to repeatedly call & no stable person to talk to. It's appears their right hand doesn't know what their left hand is doing. I'm getting the runaround. I've used UPS for 30 years with my small business & I won't be using them again, when they obviously abused the package & will not pay what they owe me. And to top it all off, they are billing me for more shipping.

“UPS Shippers Beware”

How many times have you shipped with UPS and billed to a third party’s UPS account number?
Well did you know that if the third party doesn’t pay their bill UPS will charge it to your account?
UPS is opening accounts with no exposure to them because they have a back-up plan for collections, you, the unsuspecting shipper. And that is exactly what happened to Lucky Bucky clothing. We had a customer, Theresa Sanford of Kenterri Stables in Canada who instructed us to bill shipping to her UPS account. When she apparently didn’t pay 5 of her UPS bills, months later we started getting her charges on our account.

Kenterri’s total reversed charges are around $1000 including late fees. We pled our case with UPS Corporate asking that these questionable charges be credited and as a good faith effort Lucky Bucky would utilize UPS as its primary shipper. Dale Thompson, UPS SSR Supervisor of the UPS Mid South District offered to credit half of the Kenterri Stables charges if we would pay the other half of Kenterri Stables charges. Guess UPS only felt 50% responsible?

We declined the offer and said we would take our dispute to UPS CEO, Scott Davis only to have Dale Thompson withdraw his offer. Our request for fairness with the CEO ended up back in Dale Thompson’s office with no additional consideration except with the demand to pay Kenterri Stables' UPS bills by the 23rd of November, 2010 or the Lucky Bucky account will be turned over for collections. Mr. Thompson referred us to the page 158 of the UPS Service Guide which states the responsibility of payment by the shipper if the consignee defaults. This warning is not on the “create a shipment” page when selecting “bill the receiver.”

Lucky Bucky Clothing’s Story

• UPS extended credit to Theresa Sanford, Lucky Bucky did not.
• UPS allowed Lucky Bucky to continue to bill to Theresa Sanford’s account when she was apparently not paying her UPS bills.
• UPS failed to warn Lucky Bucky on their online “Create a Shipment” website page that shippers are liable for 3rd party charges.
• UPS was not very forthright in making a 50% credit offer to Lucky Bucky then withdrawing it when LBC wanted to go up the UPS Corporate Chain of Command for further consideration and the complaint ended up back in Mr. Thompsons’ office again anyway. Lucky Bucky made a good faith effort to use UPS as its primary shipping vendor.

Lucky Bucky Clothing operates under the philosophy of “Treat People as You Would Be Treated.” Every one of our customers is important and we always want them to feel they are respected and treated fairly. The UPS attitude to Lucky Bucky is pay Theresa Sanford’s UPS bills by the 23rd of November, 2010 or be turned over for collections.

Lucky Bucky hopes as a result of this dispute UPS will make their third party billing policy more transparent for Businesses using the UPS shipping website. If we had been informed or warned at the time of creating a shipment online and choosing “bill the receiver, ” we would not have billed to Theresa Sanford’s UPS account. Lucky Bucky didn’t extend her credit to begin with, UPS did.

How many businesses in America can simply bill you if another company defaults on their account?
Good business is when both parties understand the policies and agree to do business in a fair and ethical manner. It is such a shame to see UPS, a business that started off small, grew to be the largest shipping company in America, and then seemingly quit caring about small business.

Let us know how you feel about this unfair business practice and how many of you knew it even existed. Please pass this story on to help others.

I have been an employee for UPS for the last 4 yrs. And the way that the treat their employees are UNHEARD of. I am forced to kiss ass just to save my job. Though he other workers who are known to be "FAVORITES" do nothing but make the job more and more complex. The union selects which set of people they want to protect, and leave the rest to dry. I want more than ever to quit but i have a family to PROVIDE for, and I also have plans in becoming a driver. At this point in my life I feel I have put up with so much of their bullshit it's not funny. There is no one their to help us because it's a private company. so they do as they wish. One time they held my check for a month and told me that I could not take off until the problem was fixed. It has became a joke to them. And when you do complain to them about whoever you complained about is gunning for your job. I am so DEPRESSED I dread waking up to go their to be through anymore humiliation, but at the end of the day bills have to be paid and my children have to be feed. THEIR HAS TO BE AN END TO THIS MADNESS.

Since June, 2010 I have had 4 shipments of medical supplies returned to the sender after 3 delivery attempts. I live in a highrise with a 24 hour front desk, so that just is not possible. Finally, last month I found out that the problem is at the Kentucky distribution center. They print out labels that are then scanned and used to route the packages. Thier computer takes my address from the package and prints out a label for an address that is across town. So the package goes on the wrong truck, to the wrong address, where nobody is ever home to accept the package and then gets returned to the sender. It took me I just don't know how many calls to the sender and then to UPS before they figured out what the problem was. UPS assures me that the sender is addressing the package properly. At least twice now they have promised me that they corrected the problem, and yet it happened again last week. I see a number of similar complaints on this sight, and I am wondering if this is a really widespread problem, and not just a rare occurance.

I am being bullied by UPS.

t started when a UPS driver attacked me at my front door 7 months ago! The police had to get involved it was so bad. Ever since then my packages have either been returned to sender "at customer request", which of course is not true. I, the customer, did not request this. OR the packages have been broken. (Olive oil from 2 different companies had to be returned before it even got to me.)

The best defense is a strong offense in UPS's case so they are lying about me in order to justify their actions. I'm told the original bully driver is "very popular" down at the center. He now has a buddy saying he too had a problem with me. Not true. At all. And I will take a lie detector test to prove it. In fact I insist! They are now telling me that they refuse to deliver to my house!! The 2 people I've dealt with (Terry Miller, customer relations manager at corporate in Atlanta, and Mike Beckwith, Hillsboro, Oregon center manager) are rude and nasty and very unprofessional. It's like dealing with a little kid mouthing off to her mommy. It's unbelievable! They're saying I even threatened the driver with a gun! NOT true. I'm a vegetarian, animal rights activist and anti-gun activist. To say I would threaten anyone with gunfire is a joke of epic proportions. I DID say that if he attacked me again I have the right to defend myself. I do. How is that statement threatening anyone with gunfire? The very antagonistic and rude Terry Miller even told me that security said there was a 2nd driver that had a problem with me. Well security just knocked on my door to deliver a pkg and pick up another one and she told me that that's not true. They never said there was a 2nd driver. Terry Miller has been an aggressive nut job from the beginning of this fiasco. Is she too friends with the original driver? This feels like collusion to commit a felony to me. Harassment, denial of paid for delivery, soon denial of medication needed to save my life! I already have one local news crew interested in the story. Do I really have to go that far?

I'm telling you, they are abusing me something fierce. And out of fear for their jobs, they're attacking me and blaming the victim.